Brake Pedal Goes To Floor No Leaks

It's a bit of a strange one and I can't see why it seems to be purely related to the golf or jetta. It's not "spongy" feeling, it just travels too far before it bottoms out (If I leave the other foot under the pedal, it will touch the top of my shoe). Attempts & Checks so far: Double-checked the Vacuum lines thinking it might be the Booster, however the booster would make the brakes harder to push not softer and there weren't any issues with the lines. " If you mean it's difficult to stop the car, then you have a leak in the brake booster system. Service reps could never duplicate problem and Ford would not authorize any repair action. When you have a severe brake fluid leak or problem with the brake master cylinder, you will experience what some call "brake pedal sink". he was dumbfounded after I put on a new OEM master cylinder. This Saturn came in for other problems and upon a test drive I noticed the brake pedal goes to the floor to stop the car. The other failure is when an internal seal breaks down and your brake light goes on. If your pedal goes to the floor several times the the warning light and an empty reservoir section YOU HAVE A LEAK. If the hydo-boost leaks, it is defective and should be replaced or repaired. I believe they call this "low pedal reserve". They are now able to stop on a dime. I can lock the brakes up and hear the ABS working but, again, the pedal bleeds through and will go almost to the floor. Topped off brake fluid, went around block. I am not sure how long this takes to accomplish proper brake pad seat. If the pedal goes slowly down, it means the master cylinder is not holding pressure. Is there any leaks anywhere? Are you sure the brakes are bled properly? FYI pressure in the rear system is what makes up the pedal feel in the system, ive seen a soggy weak brake system caused by a adjuster wheel that fell out of the rear drums. The brake power. If it's low, top it off to the mark on the side of the reservoir. if i pump the pedal atleast two times the pressure comes back to. stop the car. I have had it to the dealer twice. Again, hard pedal (no pump-up = no air) with engine off, sinks to the floor with engine on. Perform the brake hydraulic leak test. This was reported to the service agent who was able replicate the issue; howere, red mccombs Toyota of san antonio TX wanted to charge me $1500+ to replace the brake master cylinder. I would also inspect every line to see if there are any leaks anywhere. brakes were not worn out but due for replacement. I am completely stumped on mine. If the pedal is hard to push then maybe booster. This afternoon I had a look at the brake system. #4 - Brake Pedal Goes Down to Floor This often occurs alongside your brake pedal feeling soft or squishy. Also - there is NO fluid loss or leaks to speak of. Have double and triple checked for leaks and there are none. This time it's the brakes. Except I'm still getting some bubbles on the rear passenger wheel. If the pedal still goes to the floor, you're leaking fluid somewhere. It happens unexpectedly losing brake pedal resistance causing brakes to skin to the floor with minimum to no braking power. The second test to run was to press on the brake pedal, engine off, and then start the engine. The Prelude hit the tire wall head on at well over 100 mph. All I bought was a 1/4" lever ball valve and a 1/4" double male end threaded brass fitting. bake pedal still has to be pushed to the floor to get good brakes. Technician A says that the driver will notice a lower-than normal brake pedal and some reduced braking power. It would appear that the rear resevoir feeds the front brakes at quick glance but I didnt really get into too much detail tracing the lines at this point. No Brakes! Pedal Bottoms out, Reservoir full of fluid. Open the caliper bleed screw and pump the brake pedal for 3 seconds. When finished check for any leaks, remount rubber covers on the bleeder valve nipples. The pedal goes to the floor. It is recommended to compare the previous Commercial Vehicle Inspection Manual to the current Commercial Vehicle Inspection Manual for additions and changes to both. Also do this test first thing in the morning. Also - there is NO fluid loss or leaks to speak of. try adjusting your rear shoes and checking the adjusters themselves. Bad master cylinder. ukrkoz replied the topic: Brake Pedal Goes to Floor. First visit - No leaks, brakes do not need replacing. If the brake pedal is intermittently going to the floor she should not drive the car at all until it is fixed. 8) No leaks at all now! 9) Brake pedal seems now to go all the way to the floor from time to time, but with pumps will brake good. The second test to run was to press on the brake pedal, engine off, and then start the engine. 00 to diagnose the problem. As I applied the brakes, I would lose pressure and the pedal would travel way further than it ever did before, eventually to the floor. If you push down fast on the pedal there is no resistance. is it time for hydroboost or is there something i can do to fix this? thanks!. Q: Changed brake pads and no obvious leaks, pedal goes to floor with no resistance When you replace your brake pads you had to push back the caliper pistons to get the pads out and the new ones in. Not to the extent of some American cars, but no where near the rock firm feel of, say, a Porsche or even a SAAB. For the past 2 days, I realized that my brake pedal depresses quite easily down all the way to get enough braking action. Leaks in the Brake Lines. The brake system in your car is a sealed hydraulic system. If the brake pedal sinks more than10 mm(3/8 in. Everything looks good. If your booster or the vacuum lines connected to the booster have failed, you will notice that your brake pedal will sink to the floor or your pedal will go almost all the way to the floor when braking. If one circuit fails because of a burst pipe or what ever you will still have braking on the good circuit but you will loose half of the pedal movement. Checked fluid level in brake fluid tank and found full. When the brake pedal gets soft or sinks to the floor, it's generally due to a leak in the braking system, most commonly the master cylinder leaking internally or externally. The car stops just fine no pulling it reacts normal when you need to stop. No leaks, reservoir remains full. Brake pedal sinks. If there is no external indication of brake fluid leaking but the level in the reservoir goes down then it could be leaking in two places. Flush/bleed brake fluid-- Did this in June 2007. If you are loosing pressure but not leaking into the brake booster (by the way, check your booster and check valve for signs of brake fluid) but not missing any brake fluid, it could be a secondary piston (the piston meant for your rear brakes) that is leaking past and going back into the reservoir. Pressure from brake application spreads the seal, so it does not leak. Yes! You read it right. there is no leak in the system and my brake level is full. Our Project ’63 now has a set of snazzy four-wheel disc brakes, now we need some reliable pedal pressure to make it all happen. Brake pedal goes to floor under steady pressure. Also do this test first thing in the morning. As I applied the brakes, I would lose pressure and the pedal would travel way further than it ever did before, eventually to the floor. This time it's the brakes. Push the clutch pedal to the floor, then release the clutch pedal to the original position. ) If your vehicle has power brakes and stopping seems to take excessive effort, you may need to have the power booster replaced. When the fluid runs clear, begin the program and continue to pump the brake pedal. Had to pump the brakes like crazy as I was coming to a stoplight. I have no check engine light so doesn't seem to be a vacuum leak problem. My brakes work fine everytime I hit the pedal, never any loss of assist. I am preparing to buy some brake pads and rotors. Have your helper push the pedal 3/4 of the way to the floor and open the bleeder on the wheel furthest from the master, close bleeder, release pedal and repeat until there is just fluid coming out, no air. Hi, I just replaced my 4 calipers on my 2000 impreza RS (4 disc brakes with ABS) and now the pedal goes to the floor without any resistance. The old original single cylinder master cylinder did its job. Look for moisture where your pedals are but up higher on the firewall. If the level is full or close to full that would probably be a symptom fluid leaking past the seals in your master cylinder. Excessive brake pedal travel or brake pedal fade may occur during application, when heavily loaded or on steep downhill grades. but today when i drove it the pedal started going down when i stop. Spongy or Soft Brake Pedal. They will sometimes leak fluid into the power brake booster, but not always. also have fully serviced and adjusted the rear drums. One quick test for leakage, is to turn the engine off and press the brake pedal. DO NOT drive vehicle if pedal does not stay firm or can be pushed to the floor with normal pressure. When you press on the brakes the cups keep the seal (and pressure) for the pistons inside the master. Pedal goes rock hard after a few pumps when the engine is off, but still goes down when the engine is running. There are no apparent leaks anywhere so I don;t have a rupture seal that I can see. If vacuum is present in the system, light application will produce less and less pedal travel. (b) Open caliper or wheel cylinder bleed fitting 1/2 to 3/4 turn. A brake pedal that goes to the floor is a scary problem. they still stop fine just no pedal? master cylinder is brand new and no air in the lines. Pedal goes to the floor and no braking action. In a follow-up statement, the NHTSA announced the November 25, 2009 recall details as a "vehicle-based remedy" to address the floor mat pedal issue. The master cylinder is under the floor plate in front of the drivers seat. This afternoon I had a look at the brake system. With the engine off, apply the brake pedal repeatedly with medium pressure until the booster reserve is depleted. I do not exactly understand the symptoms. Most of the time, when your brake pedal goes to the floor, a steel brake line has rusted through. First, don't rely on ABS. The problem could be the anti lock boost pump. There are no leaks. Braking got a little better, but still really soft low pedal. The truck stopped fine, but the pedal continues to floor each time you stop. The brake pedal went to the floor when I picked it up. Shoes on rear. So checked the brakes pads and have over 45% of pad left. Does your brake pedal feel a little bit soft or spongy? Here are some common causes for a soft or spongy brake pedal. My current problem is with the brakes. A vacuum leak to the brake booster will not cause the brake pedal to reach the floor. auction last year. It would feel the same with the engine off and pushing the brake pedal several times, bleeding the vacuum away. My pedal will also go to the floor under a constant pressure, I have no leaks at all anywhere. Brake pedal firm when engine not running. and be sure there is no obstruction inside the valve. Brake pedal slows falls to the floorboard. The Prelude hit the tire wall head on at well over 100 mph. Pedal also goes hard after bleeding but once you fire up engine, pedal get soft again. Return to Braking Diagnostic Chart. If level of brake fluid is low. I am thinking it is an ABS valve/sensor, and new units are not. I checked for leaks or low fluid, but the master cylinder is completely full and I can see no leaks. A pedal will go to the floor completely based on hydraulic and mechanical operations. Re: brake pedal going to the floor but no fluid leak. Get reliability information for the 2005 Lexus RX from Consumer Reports, which combines extensive survey data and expert technical knowledge. These hoses are flexible to allow the caliper or wheel cylinder to move freely with your vehicle’s suspension. Checked calipers and flex hoses and found no evidence of any leakage. The second test to run was to press on the brake pedal, engine off, and then start the engine. My heart rate instantly triples as I figure my brakes are out. Air compresses and that can cause the pedal to go all the way to the floor. The brake went all the way to the floor. Also there is a rubber boot thing where the pedal rod goes into the MC that was wet and a trail of brake fluid running down the fire wall. is bypassing fluid internally. Recent new discs, pads and. It seems that air gets into the brake system over time. Still continue to pump pedal, but got no resistance. Brake Pedal Goes To The Floor When It Is Depressed : When the brakes are applied the pedal goes almost completely to the floor. The brake hose carries brake fluid to the caliper or wheel cylinder. I took the car to a Sub dealer and after a test drive and checking the brakes over, scanning the ABS, concluded that everything is in order and that a "soft" pedal is a characteristic of the Year 2000 cars. Symptoms of a bad master cylinder include leaking fluid, fading pedal and bad brake fluid. You can do it on the truck if you remove your lines and attach nipples into the ports and rig up some return hoses into the front and rear reservoirs. I replaced the master cylinder on advice of a mechanic. No pressure on clutch pedal - can't change gear. If your brake pedal slowly sinks towards the floor when you are stopped with your foot on the brake, or the pedal does not feel firm when the brakes are applied and slowly sinks, your brake system may have a fluid leak or your master brake cylinder is worn out or leaking. Start the engine and the pedal goes to the floor and brakes are poor. The brake fluid which is present at each bleed screw should be clean and free of air. You unscrew the plug out of the center of the proportioning valve for the wire hooks to to warn you that you have a brake problem and you put the little plastic plug with the tip in it to hold the piston in place if you're having someone pump the brakes. Start at left rear wheel. if you need to drive the car, you might be able to refill the clutch fluid reservoir and pump it sufficiently to get it working, but this is a strictly temporary fix. Apply just enough pressure to hold back automatic transmission creep. My brakes work fine everytime I hit the pedal, never any loss of assist. Follow the vehicle's manufacturer-specified bleeding procedure. Had to pump the brakes like crazy as I was coming to a stoplight. When you press on the brakes the cups keep the seal (and pressure) for the pistons inside the master. I have fitted a new brake system to a series 2 and now I cant get a decent pedal. Want to know. I think though the front brakes (disc) are doing all the work. is it time for hydroboost or is there something i can do to fix this? thanks!. You'll need check the entire system for leaking pipes or a GG said, the rear shoes. I said three masters, replacing each one as I though that was the problem. bleed the brakes using the scanner. Repeat the previous steps for the remaining wheels. Basic steps to do when brake pedal goes to floor 1. 11(b)(2) and 383. Common Causes of a Spongy or Soft Pedal: Brake fluid leaks; Worn out brake hoses; Air in the system; Contaminated brake fluid. its hard when the brakes work not spongy does that sound like traped air, or could i have ruined the master cly while messing around?. Checking the fluid reservoir,the front half was bone dry. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation. if it stays full then you will need a new mastercylender. Feds study possible brake issues in Ford Fusion. Warning Always use caution when working around an engine that is running. Apply just enough pressure to hold back automatic transmission creep. Pedal travel should be 2 1/4" Max. Passat Brake Pedal fade - MerlinTec Hi A petrol can only supply the vacuum that is in the manifold a diesel is a mechanical pump and keeps pumping as the engine is running so as your foot is on the brake the pump will carry on pulling more and more vacuum to the servo so the pedal will keep going further and further down the longer you hold. But the pedal barely slows the car even with the vacuum line plumbed directly to engine vacuum to make sure no leaks anywhere else. You do not have to press the brake pedal when you use the power bleeder system it's 80 bucks. SYMPTOM SUMMARY. Corvettes that accrue just a few miles per year are the most susceptible to brake fluid contamination from moisture intrusion, eventually causing visible brake fluid leakage. Either way, your brakes need immediate attention. Car has ~70k on it. The master cylinder plays an important role in distributing the hydraulic pressure mentioned in #1. Air pressure is fine, no hissing. Re: S60 D5 brake pedal goes to floor (no resistance) SOLUTIO Post by LeeV » 13 Mar 2011, 13:10 OK, I flushed/bled the brakes again and it was pretty much the same, so I admitted defeat and took the car (very slowly) to a local brake specialist. there is no leak in the system and my brake level is full. Pumping pedal has no effect. if i pump the brake pedal about five or six times, i have full pedal, but as soon as i let off of it and push the pedal, it goes back to the floor. The pedal still goes to the floor. Release the accelerator and turn the engine off. Return to Braking Diagnostic Chart. I didn't crack the bleeder when I pushed in the caliper pistons, to fit the new pads. And there is a warranty extension on the brake booster for the edge where the pedal goes slowly to the floor mainly at idle though but it is possible for a bad brake booster to cause similar problems. How to Fix a Brake Fluid Leak. I have a 2004 Lincoln LS that has the same intermittent problem going back to when it was new. I still don't have good brakes. by Lance Wright. is bypassing fluid internally. Bleeding the brakes flushes the old brake fluid out of the master cylinder, brake lines, calipers and wheel cylinders and replaces it with fresh fluid. No; diagnose and repair the clutch switch. There was some resistance around 1/2 way but they perhaps over a second, the pedal would continue to sink to that 3/4 point. Brake pedal firm when engine not running. But the pedal barely slows the car even with the vacuum line plumbed directly to engine vacuum to make sure no leaks anywhere else. After about 2000 miles the brake pedal would go all they the way to the floor before it would stop the truck. Brakes that are less responsive than they should be or a brake pedal that seems to drop when pressed may indicate a leak in the brake system or that your master cylinder needs to be replaced. Rather than holding the pressure generated by the master cylinder and using it to apply the brakes, the leak allows the pressure to dissipate and the fluid to leak out of the system. When you bleed the brakes and the pedal goes to the floor you are basically making the seals in the m/c go over this little bit of corrosion which can tear them up and cause a pressure loss. almost had a few accidents. Switch engine on, pedal goes to floor. There were no leaks on lines or wheel cylinders/calipers both before and after replacement. Have great pedal w/out engine running, but start the engine the pedal goes way down. Sinking/Spongy Brake Pedal???? With ABS SYSTEM!!Watch this before you buy a master cylinder!!It does happenIts Not always a Master Cylinder Issue! Must Watch! Check out My Amazon Auto. You say you replaced it. While the brakes themselves seem to work fine, if I continually apply pressure to the pedal, it will sink to the floor. Searched here and over google. ok i have recently put a new master cyl. Last year the front to back line, wheel cylinders and brake shoes were. Pressure from brake application spreads the seal, so it does not leak. it has been fine. The hydro-boost uses the hydraulic pressure from the power steering system to provide the driver assist in applying the brakes. Toyota said it would recall 740,000 Avalon, Highlander, Lexus GS300, IS250 and IS350 cars in the United States to replace a brake master cylinder seal because there was a possibility that some brake fluid could leak from the cylinder, causing the brake warning lamp to light up. Chrysler Corporation Antilock Brakes General ABS system precautions. The car stops just fine no pulling it reacts normal when you need to stop. (d) Tighten bleed fitting and have helper release brake pedal. That is by design. Corrective Action Steps: Step #1 - Low fluid in booster side (external leak). I would also inspect every line to see if there are any leaks anywhere. A defective master cylinder will cause what you. Brake pedal goes to floor under steady pressure. Release the accelerator and turn the engine off. I clamped off the front brake lines, and the rear works fine. Air compresses and that can cause the pedal to go all the way to the floor. Dealer (surburban Chrysler) changed master cylinder but it did not resolve issue. A pedal will go to the floor completely based on hydraulic and mechanical operations. 2005 - Answered by a verified Ford Mechanic We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. goes to floor when running! I have a nice firm brake pedal when the car is not running, as soon as I start the engine, the pedal goes almost to floor. Pracidea New Member. When on the road the pedal goes about 1" from the floor. I had the brake pedal go to the floor with my grand kids in the truck with me. I have a 2004 Lincoln LS that has the same intermittent problem going back to when it was new. Technically, there are two main causes that would make the brake pedal sink all the way to the floor. I have bled and bled until I can't bleed no more well the brakes im talking about. Brake pedal sinks. then if shut off overnight and started up, if I don't hit the brake pedal a couple of times, the pedal goes down further than it should. net The IDI, TDI, and mTDI source. Very hard pedal and no boost. If it's not maintaining pressure when pressed, then it's either pushing out fluid somewhere, or fluid is going past the master cylinder. If you find a leak, have the brake line(s) replaced immediately. My'69 Malibu's (w/all drum brakes)brake pedal just started to go to the floor. It will stiffen up with a few pumps but fronts grab unevenly and it pulls hard to the right. When finished check for any leaks, remount rubber covers on the bleeder valve nipples. Look for moisture where your pedals are but up higher on the firewall. I don't see any brake fluid leaking from any lines so how could it be possible for air to. Re: Brake pedal fading to the floor Sign In its the master cylinder that needs replacement-has an internal failure. Brake fluid was replaced and system serviced. I drove around ten miles through city street in a car with no hydraulic brakes when I was a stupid teenager, though fortunately it was a standard transmission and I was just smart enough to ignore the cars behind me and time all the lights. Pumping pedal has no effect. This is also a potentially dangerous condition because a worn master cylinder or a leak in the hydraulic system may cause the brakes to fail. I had a new 2012 ram. I replaced my front brake pads today and when I drove it I found the pedal was soft and will go all the way to the floor if I leave foot presure on it. the brake pedal went straight to the floor now have a hard pedal with engine off, pedal goes straight to the floor when the engine is running. Replacing The Master Cylinder. Also there is a rubber boot thing where the pedal rod goes into the MC that was wet and a trail of brake fluid running down the fire wall. Tested brake booster like FSM tells. The brake override system, also called "brake to idle" and already a common design in German cars, allows the driver to override the accelerator by hitting the brakes. The primary brake circuit fails due to a leak in the lines, leaving the rear section of a dual split master cylinder. The pedal will drift towards the floor as the vacuum booster helps you apply the brakes. It will continue to stop but with half it original strength. I ignored it because I knew the rear pads/rotors were thin. make sure brake fluid is full. Sinking/Spongy Brake Pedal???? With ABS SYSTEM!!Watch this before you buy a master cylinder!!It does happenIts Not always a Master Cylinder Issue! Must Watch! Check out My Amazon Auto. the trunk while unlocked, is not opening with the car off and the doors locked. If your fluid levels are dropping look for fluid leaks at all 4 wheels. Hope this. If your brake pedal goes to the floor, confirm the master cylinder is full and there are no leaks. I have a 2002 Buick Rendezvous with a somewhat mushy brake pedal. Bleeding the brakes flushes the old brake fluid out of the master cylinder, brake lines, calipers and wheel cylinders and replaces it with fresh fluid. If you step on the brake pedal and it has little to no pressure and goes all the way to the floor, especially if you're getting no braking: Low Brake Fluid Level: Check your brake fluid. Air in brake lines. There is slight resistance when pushing down the pedal, but not much as it goes to the floor I then turn off the engine and the pedal is stiff again. stop the car. I have turned the truck off, pumped the pedal till it gets hard and then turned the truck on. Also there is a rubber boot thing where the pedal rod goes into the MC that was wet and a trail of brake fluid running down the fire wall. When brake fluid leaks out of holes in the lines, the fluid levels become too low to apply adequate force to the brake pads. I'm wondering if this is an indication of master cylinder seal worn out and fluid leaking past the seals. I clamped off the front brake lines, and the rear works fine. If the pedal goes to the floor, and no fluid is escaping, release the pedal and stomp on it as fast as you can. Remount all wheels, re-torque. The pedal goes to the floor. Why does my brake pedal go to the floor and no visible fluid is leaking - All of a sudden my brake pedal went to the floor and there is fluid in the master × We use cookies to help our site to work, to help us understand how it is used, and to tailor advertising on this and other sites. With power brakes, the pedal should stop 1 to 1-1⁄2 inches from the floor. The garage that did the work is stumped. When the pedal is released, air can be drawn past the weakened seal. Please help. The pedal shouldn't go to the floor though. There are three. Good fluid level and no apparent leaks. How far did the pedal go now? If the pedal doesn't sink with the engine not running, there are no leaks internally or externally. Push the clutch pedal to the floor, then release the clutch pedal to the original position. If you push down fast on the pedal there is no resistance. Check the check valve in the brake booster and its good. Pads and rotors on front. The brakes have been bled and there are no leaks. Does the clutch pedal status change? a. If it suddenly went to the floor, it's nothing to do with age of the fluid or it's colour. Switch engine on, pedal goes to floor. Hope this. I have a 95 K1500 Chevy Stepside 350 truck with automatic trans. Feds study possible brake issues in Ford Fusion. As soon as you start the car it falls to the floor. When the desired pedal height is achieved, press the brake pedal in order to inspect for firmness. If the level is full or close to full that would probably be a symptom fluid leaking past the seals in your master cylinder. not to smash on anyone but all the searching i have done if your pedal is hard to push its the brake booster, and if it goes down all the way its a leaking line or master cylinder. Put light, steady pressure on the brake pedal. The truck stopped fine, but the pedal continues to floor each time you stop. Be sure to tighten the fluid fittings before the assistant releases the brake pedal. i bleed the system a while back and put new brake fluid in. With truck running pump the brake pedal several times and hold pressure on pedal after third pump. The booster was replaced about a year ago. The hydro-boost uses the hydraulic pressure from the power steering system to provide the driver assist in applying the brakes. Base brakes are slightly spongy and when the car is started the pedal hits the floor. The system has never been opened up. I have added brake fluid to the master cylinder today. The problem could be the anti lock boost pump. Recently, when I push the brake pedal, it goes all the way to the floor on the first push, and then on the second push it goes halfway and the brakes bite properly. If your brake pedal slowly sinks towards the floor when you are stopped with your foot on the brake, or the pedal does not feel firm when the brakes are applied and slowly sinks, your brake system may have a fluid leak or your master brake cylinder is worn out or leaking. If the caliper is leaking, it can cause the brake pedal to be extremely low or go to the floor. Brake booster test must be done as a master cylinder and booster can both feel the same, and can both come and go. Brake pedal goes to floor randomly, no leaks, no air, brakes work fine otherwise, system flushed and bled – 28-01-2017, 12:34 AM Hi guys, Recently purchased an Audi A4 1. The unit worked fine as far as bleeding brakes, I have a craftsman 33 gal 150psi max air compressor and have 150psi going to the bleeder. Either way, your brakes need immediate attention. In a follow-up statement, the NHTSA announced the November 25, 2009 recall details as a "vehicle-based remedy" to address the floor mat pedal issue. is it time for hydroboost or is there something i can do to fix this? thanks!. i looked all around the truck for leaks from brake fluid there is none and the brake resiviour (sorry for the spelling) is still full. In other words, the brakes. My current problem is with the brakes. I have a 95 K1500 Chevy Stepside 350 truck with automatic trans. brake pedal goes to the floor i recently got the brakes working somewhat on my truck, but the pedal goes to the floor, and when i say somewhat, i mean they work barely. Repeat the procedure again. No leaks or signs of leaks. Upon inspection, I could mash the pedal and lock up the brake, but if I continued the pedal pressure, the pedal would very slowly continue to the bottom of the travel and the brake would free up some.